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	<title>Comments on: American Hikers Imprisoned in Iran</title>
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		<title>By: Leisa Schaim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leisa Schaim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jan 2012 04:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Lorena,

I wrote and researched the above article, and I was able to narrow down specific birth dates for Bauer and Fattal, but not times. So, we don&#039;t have full charts to look at regarding houses. By itself exaltation doesn&#039;t guarantee a pleasant Saturn return; so much depends on interacting factors. For example, in these two charts Mars and Pluto are also placed with Saturn in Libra. Right away that puts both malefics being activated plus Pluto, which can be associated with intense experiences. A twelfth house Saturn return could be one possibility for issues of imprisonment, but we really don&#039;t know if that&#039;s the case here. If we had birth times, we would look at the house placements and houses ruled by Saturn, and also placements of Venus, the ruler of those Saturns, as well as what other simultaneous activations were happening with the charts during their Saturn returns.  That&#039;s why I only write generally on these news stories that don&#039;t have birth times available, because so much depends on the full chart. Thanks for reading!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Lorena,</p>
<p>I wrote and researched the above article, and I was able to narrow down specific birth dates for Bauer and Fattal, but not times. So, we don&#8217;t have full charts to look at regarding houses. By itself exaltation doesn&#8217;t guarantee a pleasant Saturn return; so much depends on interacting factors. For example, in these two charts Mars and Pluto are also placed with Saturn in Libra. Right away that puts both malefics being activated plus Pluto, which can be associated with intense experiences. A twelfth house Saturn return could be one possibility for issues of imprisonment, but we really don&#8217;t know if that&#8217;s the case here. If we had birth times, we would look at the house placements and houses ruled by Saturn, and also placements of Venus, the ruler of those Saturns, as well as what other simultaneous activations were happening with the charts during their Saturn returns.  That&#8217;s why I only write generally on these news stories that don&#8217;t have birth times available, because so much depends on the full chart. Thanks for reading!</p>
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		<title>By: Lorena</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lorena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2012 09:46:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Chris: 

Saturn in Libra is exalted. Without knowing or having even seen the nativity chart, one would expect Saturn to &quot; behave&quot; in the sign of its exaltation. 
I wonder if Libra is on the cusp of the 12th; signalling imprisonment/ suffering ...and since the 12th is a cadent house Saturn&#039;s &quot;gifts&quot; are kinda taken away. If this is the case we will find capricorn on the 3rd cusp and aquarius on the 4th ... the ruler of the 3rd &amp; 4th in the 12th: short journeys that end up in suffering.... 
thanks for your feedback.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Chris: </p>
<p>Saturn in Libra is exalted. Without knowing or having even seen the nativity chart, one would expect Saturn to &#8221; behave&#8221; in the sign of its exaltation.<br />
I wonder if Libra is on the cusp of the 12th; signalling imprisonment/ suffering &#8230;and since the 12th is a cadent house Saturn&#8217;s &#8220;gifts&#8221; are kinda taken away. If this is the case we will find capricorn on the 3rd cusp and aquarius on the 4th &#8230; the ruler of the 3rd &amp; 4th in the 12th: short journeys that end up in suffering&#8230;.<br />
thanks for your feedback.</p>
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